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A MAJOR national bank has been forced to remove more than 100 misleading out of order signs from its ATMs after being targeted by anti-coal activists.
A MAJOR national bank has been forced to remove more than 100 misleading out of order signs from its ATMs after being targeted by anti-coal activists.
A score of ANZ Banking Group machines sprawled across six capital cities were plastered with "out of order" signs on Sunday after campaigners launched their latest bid to draw attention to the bank's funding of the coal industry.
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The police and judges in this remind me of the Gunns vs Cundall case.
ReplyDeleteSurely when someone is permitted to get away with driving a vehicle with a protester clinging to a bullbar screaming for the driver to stop, it is the beginning of anarchy?
ReplyDeleteYou can bet your bottom dollar they have been waiting for this.The likes of Barnett, Procter,TONC,Shire,Woodside.The police and judges would have already been told,"what is expected of them".Same as Tassie.
ReplyDeleteAccording to Chas:
ReplyDeleteThe KLC are not deserving of our animosity.
The KLC are against compulsory acquisition.
The KLC,Bergman,do not,and can not,manipulate the media.
The 1.5,is capital to be shared?
The 1.5 is capital not to be shared?
The Greens are not against the pollution from this hub.
Coal mining agreements will be refined.
All these comments are off the mark.
The KLC,along with the rest of the pro gas mob have shown nothing but contempt for any other views,the entire process has been seriously flawed in this respect.
The KLC is only against comp.aqu.as far as public image is concerned.Otherwise they are not that different from the BCC.
To say the KLC does not savvy the media situation is daft.
The 1.5 would be shared out to a very wide section.eg the compo clause etc.And it is to be drip fed over 50 or more years,not an up front lump sum.
The Greens are absolutely opposed to the pollution from this hub.See Scott Ludlum,and Wangle links.
There is absolutely nothing refined about agreements with King Coal.See Peabody over East,and any other coal you want.
As for the pap,you can store it for your long journey.
Lots of Love,"Uncle Bob".
ummmmmmm?????lost all cred with who???
ReplyDeleteWhen somebody posts anonymous comments calling people names it is they who they have the credibility of a muppet in my view.
ReplyDeleteDon't know where you got your info about "If you're going to grab hold of a moving vehicle then you must be as brain dead as they come." The reports say that the car was driven into the protesters. Were you or your mates in the car? If not how did you come by your information? Or did you just make it up?
Your weak attempt to throw mud at Redhand's integrity is worthless as long as you continue to show you don't have the intestinal fortitude to identify yourself. Until then your comments are best seen as those directly sponsored by the proponents of this disasterous gas proposal. The fact that you post suggests the success of Redhand's efforts is a worry to you. Go Redhand! Hands Off Country!Stop the Gas in 2011.
I spose those that put money above Country.
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ReplyDeleteNow let me get this straight. A car tries to run down one of our people and drags them 200m before finally being forced to stop and no charges are laid! Just imagine if the situation was reversed, all hell would break loose. Here we see the police in their common role as faithful servents to power. Disgusting!
ReplyDeleteHang on Uncle Bob,
ReplyDeleteI am not making any comment on whether the animosity to the KLC is deserved or not.
What I am questioning is whether the animosity is doing more harm than good to the No Gas party. That is what I said and that is what I meant.
Do you think the Land Council are in favour of the CA? I do not think they are but I am prepared to be wrong. I do not see any evidence that they are in favour of it but am quite happy to look at any that exists.
As to the third point, No. What I was responding to was a comment that they are "orchestrating" the media. Everybody is trying to "manipulate" the media - it is called public relations. It is why organisations have media releases - so lazy journalists will write what they want them to.
As for the $1.5Billion - again, I am responding to something - you might be right. I don't know. It is an incomprehensible amount of money.
All I know is what I read that comes out of the Native Title Office and The Attorney General.
I am not saying that the Greens are not against the pollution. My reference was to Joseph Roe and Bob Brown and their discussions about alternate sites to JPP.
As for coal mining agreements being "refined" - If the Land Council is doing their job properly and the recommendations of the Native Title Payments Working Party are implemented - then yes, one should expect the Land Council to get a good deal.
You would probably argue that they are not doing their job properly. If you are working from that as a base assumption then yes you are right to doubt that any good deal will come from the coal.
I am not working from that assumption. I am more interested in whether or not the Feds are going to implement the recommendations in the above report.
You have had Paul Murray writing critically of the KLC in the West, Fairfax (SMH) seem to do a good job promoting the issues, The ABC was scathing of the Land Council, The Monthly gave a very good summary of the issues, Overland has produced some stuff favourable to the No Gas cause.
So I don't think that I am at all off the mark with what I have written.
What I would say is that I am coming at it from the outside, not the inside. And that is understandable that people who have put their heart and soul into this issue would be sceptical and suspicious of the agent provocateur aspect.
Fair enough. But I tell you this, fear is not a strong place to be making decisions from. When I read paranoiac stuff and conspiracy theory stuff you can just smell the fear.
I respect what you are saying about having been treated with contempt. You are not the only one saying it - I hear it loud and clear.
I am a cleanskin on this issue, Uncle, I have come in since the Four Corners Report and if I was to allow myself to be weighed down by the baggage of everything that has gone before then what use would that be?
You know what they say about the definition of stupidity - to keep on doing the same thing expecting a different result.
Love Chas.
P.S. Forget the pap, I'm a chuck man, cut straight of the spine.
For a long journey? Tin Dog.
As we have found out already in how Government Departments operate in Western Australia in things to do with Gas Precincts,Public Servants including the Police as it appears, are not servants of the People, but servants to the Government.
ReplyDeleteHang on Uncle Bob,
ReplyDeleteI am not making any comment on whether the animosity to the KLC is deserved or not.
What I am questioning is whether the animosity is doing more harm than good to the No Gas party. That is what I said and that is what I meant.
Do you think the Land Council are in favour of the CA? I do not think they are but I am prepared to be wrong. I do not see any evidence that they are in favour of it but am quite happy to look at any that exists.
As to the third point, No. What I was responding to was a comment that they are "orchestrating" the media. Everybody is trying to "manipulate" the media - it is called public relations. It is why organisations have media releases - so lazy journalists will write what they want them to.
As for the $1.5Billion - again, I am responding to something - you might be right. I don't know. It is an incomprehensible amount of money.
All I know is what I read that comes out of the Native Title Office and The Attorney General.
I am not saying that the Greens are not against the pollution. My reference was to Joseph Roe and Bob Brown and their discussions about alternate sites to JPP.
As for coal mining agreements being "refined" - If the Land Council is doing their job properly and the recommendations of the Native Title Payments Working Party are implemented - then yes, one should expect the Land Council to get a good deal.
You would probably argue that they are not doing their job properly. If you are working from that as a base assumption then yes you are right to doubt that any good deal will come from the coal.
I am not working from that assumption. I am more interested in whether or not the Feds are going to implement the recommendations in the above report.
You have had Paul Murray writing critically of the KLC in the West, Fairfax (SMH) seem to do a good job promoting the issues, The ABC was scathing of the Land Council, The Monthly gave a very good summary of the issues, Overland has produced some stuff favourable to the No Gas cause.
So I don't think that I am at all off the mark with what I have written.
What I would say is that I am coming at it from the outside, not the inside. And that is understandable that people who have put their heart and soul into this issue would be sceptical and suspicious of the agent provocateur aspect.
Fair enough. But I tell you this, fear is not a strong place to be making decisions from. When I read paranoiac stuff and conspiracy theory stuff you can just smell the fear.
I respect what you are saying about having been treated with contempt. You are not the only one saying it - I hear it loud and clear.
I am a cleanskin on this issue, Uncle, I have come in since the Four Corners Report and if I was to allow myself to be weighed down by the baggage of everything that has gone before then what use would that be?
You know what they say about the definition of stupidity - to keep on doing the same thing expecting a different result.
Love Chas.
P.S. Forget the pap, I'm a chuck man, cut straight of the spine.
For a long journey? Tin Dog.
Dear Uncle Bob,
ReplyDeleteI have to address something you said. Unfortunately, I am having trouble loading the whole thing so I am going to break it into two halves.
I am not making any comment on whether the animosity to the KLC is deserved or not.
What I am questioning is whether the animosity is doing more harm than good to the No Gas party. That is what I said and that is what I meant.
Do you think the Land Council are in favour of the CA? I do not think they are but I am prepared to be wrong. I do not see any evidence that they are in favour of it but am quite happy to look at any that exists.
As to the third point, No. What I was responding to was a comment that they are "orchestrating" the media. Everybody is trying to "manipulate" the media - it is called public relations. It is why organisations have media releases - so lazy journalists will write what they want them to.
As for the $1.5Billion - again, I am responding to something - you might be right. I don't know. It is an incomprehensible amount of money.
All I know is what I read that comes out of the Native Title Office and The Attorney General.
I am not saying that the Greens are not against the pollution. My reference was to Joseph Roe and Bob Brown and their discussions about alternate sites to JPP.
As for coal mining agreements being "refined" - If the Land Council is doing their job properly and the recommendations of the Native Title Payments Working Party are implemented - then yes, one should expect the Land Council to get a good deal.
You would probably argue that they are not doing their job properly. If you are working from that as a base assumption then yes you are right to doubt that any good deal will come from the coal.
I am not working from that assumption. I am more interested in whether or not the Feds are going to implement the recommendations in the above report.
You have had Paul Murray writing critically of the KLC in the West, Fairfax (SMH) seem to do a good job promoting the issues, The ABC was scathing of the Land Council, The Monthly gave a very good summary of the issues, Overland has produced some stuff favourable to the No Gas cause.
So I don't think that I am at all off the mark with what I have written.
to be continued
Love Chas
Dear Uncle Bob,
ReplyDeleteI have to address something you said. Unfortunately, I am having trouble loading the whole thing so I am going to break it into two halves.
I am not making any comment on whether the animosity to the KLC is deserved or not.
What I am questioning is whether the animosity is doing more harm than good to the No Gas party. That is what I said and that is what I meant.
Do you think the Land Council are in favour of the CA? I do not think they are but I am prepared to be wrong. I do not see any evidence that they are in favour of it but am quite happy to look at any that exists.
As to the third point, No. What I was responding to was a comment that they are "orchestrating" the media. Everybody is trying to "manipulate" the media - it is called public relations. It is why organisations have media releases - so lazy journalists will write what they want them to.
As for the $1.5Billion - again, I am responding to something - you might be right. I don't know. It is an incomprehensible amount of money.
All I know is what I read that comes out of the Native Title Office and The Attorney General.
I am not saying that the Greens are not against the pollution. My reference was to Joseph Roe and Bob Brown and their discussions about alternate sites to JPP.
As for coal mining agreements being "refined" - If the Land Council is doing their job properly and the recommendations of the Native Title Payments Working Party are implemented - then yes, one should expect the Land Council to get a good deal.
You would probably argue that they are not doing their job properly. If you are working from that as a base assumption then yes you are right to doubt that any good deal will come from the coal.
I am not working from that assumption. I am more interested in whether or not the Feds are going to implement the recommendations in the above report.
You have had Paul Murray writing critically of the KLC in the West, Fairfax (SMH) seem to do a good job promoting the issues, The ABC was scathing of the Land Council, The Monthly gave a very good summary of the issues, Overland has produced some stuff favourable to the No Gas cause.
So I don't think that I am at all off the mark with what I have written.
to be continued
Love Chas
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ReplyDeleteDear Uncle Bob,
ReplyDeleteFurther to what I was saying,
What I would say is that I am coming at it from the outside, not the inside. And that is understandable that people who have put their heart and soul into this issue would be sceptical and suspicious of the agent provocateur aspect.
Fair enough. But I tell you this, fear is not a strong place to be making decisions from. When I read paranoiac stuff and conspiracy theory stuff you can just smell the fear.
I respect what you are saying about having been treated with contempt. You are not the only one saying it - I hear it loud and clear.
I am a cleanskin on this issue, Uncle, I have come in since the Four Corners Report and if I was to allow myself to be weighed down by the baggage of everything that has gone before then what use would that be?
I don't want to take sides on the native title claim business. What I do want to do is say how I see it because I feel like I have something to offer. Ways of looking at it that might be helpful.
You know what they say about the definition of stupidity - to keep on doing the same thing expecting a different result.
Love Chas.
P.S. Forget the pap, I'm a tindog man.
This is good,we've all got a name now.Hate Google a/c's,but looks like Redhand under siege from the haters and baiters,so what the hell.They are stuck into the Wilderness Society too,over Wild Rivers.So all part of the same thing really.We all know how this works,it's the beginning of the serious attempts to discredit the no gas movement.Wonder if we'll see KBR in their usual role,lots of sunglasses and special forces weapons?No access at all past the turn off on safety and security concerns?Could be a hell of a year.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you KBKIM. Names are good. Names provide a degree of accountability.
ReplyDeleteCan I ask you a straight question? Are you referring to me when you talk about Redhand haters and baiters and "discrediting the no gas movement"?
Love Chas.
Are you saying you are responsible for those posts?Sorry but all I saw was some posts were removed.I have no idea what they were or who wrote them.
ReplyDeleteWhen Redhand first started blogging, getting comments were the highlights because it assured us that people were actually looking and reading what we were putting out there. Getting comments is really the only job satisfaction you can experience as a blogger. Its not an avenue for abuse, its an avenue in which everyone can share their ideas, information and even feelings. Redhand has changed the comments section so people need to have an identity to make comment. This is to try and avoid hurtful and useless banter. And for the record the comments that were removed were not targeting Redhand solely but were basically very rude. So please lets all chill down a bit and save our energies for what looks like a very interesting Gas Free New Year.
ReplyDeleteYes cheers to that.2011,the year that stands to define the future of the Kimberley.A win here would reverberate around the world.KBKIM and family would like to wish Redhand and all the No Gas crew a Very Happy Gas Free New Year and Totally Awesome Blogging!
ReplyDeleteNah, just being paranoid ...
ReplyDeleteWell Said Red. Also good post of the video of Mr Roe. Was this at the book launch for Murray Wilcox or a trip to Melbourne. I am just plugging away. I am sorry for anything I ever said to cause anyone any offence. I was too harsh on the young fellow. A hand held GPS would have cost what, $120? That fellow on the bonnett - he could have had that in his pocket to provide direct evidence of travel and speed. I don't know who to believe. Maybe the evidence would have proved otherwise.
Happy New Year, Red and good work.
Oh Boy!This was a planned stunt?And the poor young fellow aka the muppet,forgot his GPS?Hahahahahaha...thats a good one!Funniest one I've heard all festive season.So whats up?No action.We all stuck on this one.You're a very funny guy Chas.
ReplyDeleteDear Chas,due to recent events in the town of Broome,I suggest it's time we both sobered up a bit.OK mate,we'll catch up down the track.
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